The Leapers have led you to believe parallel leaping happens all the time through changing your thoughts, or the soul deciding to go another direction, or its trying out several things. They've also been saying that to be able to leap with great discontinuity, to a place where things are as different as my home is from yours, is a very rare thing.
However, on a parallel like mine where people understand the physics of the universe better than those on your parallel do, these kinds of leaps are not utterly unheard of. For instance, if the version of John Kennedy, Jr. who was president of the U.S. had brought his body in leaping over to your world, it would have created an incredible stir. It would be like someone rising from the dead. On my parallel version of Earth, it would be unusual, but not unheard of, for this to happen. And if it happened, we wouldn't assume that the person was an ascended master coming back in. We'd say wow, the universe must really have wanted this. And we would assume it was in the higher purpose of all of us for that to happen, and it was good for society, something we all needed. Maybe a very creative person would be back.
On your parallel, the Swedish scientist Bjorn Ortenheim said that Einstein had walked into him. And he was a very innovative scientist, so it was a very good thing for everybody that Einstein walked in. The walk-in phenomenon on your parallel is considered pretty far-out by a lot of people, but it's at least a little bit easier for people to understand than parallel leaping. It doesn't blow people's perceptions of the world apart, because a walk-in can operate without admitting, or even knowing, that they're a walk-in. There are not a lot of famous walk-ins, like Einstein or John. A lot of them may be from other planets, but are not well-known personalities who lived here. So this is pretty unique what you're doing, John. Let's face it folks, you're in a unusual situation for your parallel, even without leaping bigger than this. (laughs) In fact, I think partly why Cathee wants to leap is to come to a society where John will feel at home, normal. She and John won't feel alone in being soul braids when they get here.
So that brings us to, why are we helping you over? Is it mainly because things are so bad there that we've gotta get you off right away? Or, are you leaping mainly because we need you to help us understand your parallel better in our work with your parallel? So which is the stronger reason? Does it matter which it is, or is it both? And will you still have a parallel self left there?
A friend showed up recently to carry on your work once you're gone, and wants you to leave a dead body to give your life legal closure. Once Cathee started thinking about physically dying, suddenly things didn't look so bad there! (laughs)
Let's look. Leapers, I ask you to be in on this too, of course. These are very important questions. And Cathee, I don't want you to go around affirming that you're dying. That's not good.
Leapers: This is mainly the Leapers, and actually who was just talking was mainly us anyway. After all, we created Jonathan to be your host. Maybe everybody's us. (laughs)
You're thinking about whether people will be able to understand the leap handbook, it's so radical in a way. But most people are not aware of how far your scientific establishment, your military, and even your spiritual explorers have gone. If they're building the prototypes for quantum computers, they're already using parallel realities. And they are already cloning people. Yes, they are. And you know zero point energy is available, or soon will be for the masses, with zero point devices to create electricity for people's homes.
So we'll share with you what we're thinking, and as always, we appreciate your input. You know that most people don't understand at all what comes out of a cell phone tower or their handheld device. They haven't a clue, really, what wi fi is, and what it can do. What we see now is a culture that is technologically advanced far beyond its spiritual understanding and moral development. We're partly wanting to fill that gap by everything we've taught you, and by demonstrating it with Johnny coming over. We think you're way out front, Cathee and Peter, even beyond what your friends comprehend about parallel worlds and how it all works, although a lot of them have a smattering of "you create your own reality" understanding, and of quantum physics. We feel that we need to do anything we can to try to catch up the popular understanding of how this works to the level of technology you already have. To the level of technology you're already concerned about, that you're wanting to leap away from because you know what it could do, even in your very limited understanding of it.
Cathee: Thank you, Leapers. That makes total sense.
Leapers: We just don't have a lot of people to work with so, you're the ones (laughs). John and Johnny obviously now are in the same body. They are both very conscious of their common roots as one person, and also very aware of each other as a different parallel self. And we're proposing, of course, that Peter and his parallel self Pete [who split off decades ago] become more aware of each other too. This is rather radical. You're almost getting used to it. But for most people this is new stuff, to think that they can actually talk to their parallel selves, love their parallel selves, have a great relationship with their parallel selves. What if a Cathee and a Peter who are on Jonathan's parallel can still relate to a Cathee and a Peter here, on this parallel?
Now Cathee's thinking, did they already leap and we're still here? Nothing has happened with Jonathan's parallel yet, as far as a parallel Cathee is concerned. But that's what we're playing with. That's what Cathee was getting a whiff of, and was complaining about the other night, that a parallel of her might split off to go to Jonathan's world, and she'd be left behind here. But then when her friend came over, it was like, oh, maybe I don't want to die. Cathee was lobbying at first to not have a self left here. But then she thought, maybe I'm going to miss out on fame and fortune if I completely go. Why should I miss out on the good stuff after all these years? (laughs) But we know you're mainly very concerned about your safety here, for very good reason.
So Cathee is wondering if you get to choose which parallel self you are. Well, we are in a conference here. We are in a conference. Yes, we are.
We were saying, this would be an interesting experience to have a very conscious relationship with your parallel self. You've already seen split-offs. For instance, Cathee was in an accident in childhood. A parallel self split off and became a guide to John. A lot of guides are split-offs, sometimes of even your own self, because on the astral level you can see a lot more clearly where you're going. You can guide yourself better.
But the two Cathees we're talking about now would be two incarnates, incarnate in the same location, just on different parallels. Do you see why when we've talked about making the place Cathee calls Columbine Falls a leap center, that if you were working Columbine Falls from two different parallel selves, how easy that information flow would be, from self to self? It would be both based in a place, and based in Cathee. Two versions of a place and two versions of a person, at different densities.
The parallel Peter could get settled on Jonathan's reality, and start describing what he sees and experiences to the Peter who's here. If you're interested in technological exchange, it'd be very easy.
You already do this. On the inner planes, you're already connected with your past lives, your future lives, and all your parallel selves. What we're talking about is basically just bringing what already exists to a conscious, waking level, and being able to more efficiently translate that information into usable data.
We think that this is one of the most efficient ways to do parallel information exchange. There are those who walk in the dream worlds and can remember what they see, and what they do in the dream. But that's still all astral. If we have a Peter on Jonathan's parallel who physically gets to ride in the "wagonloader" (where everybody hooks their cars up together on a single track), he can interview the inventor of that. He can go and ride in it. He can see how it works. That's immediate.
Sometimes people get ideas on the astral, intuitive level, but then they have to do a lot of experimentation to bring those principles down into physical manifestation. If you're actually in a body tinkering on another parallel, then you can tell people in this parallel what you're tinkering with in a body.
Obviously, there's quite a bit of a dimensional difference between the parallels—Jonathan's parallel does spin a little faster than yours. But we can't really even ascertain the difference. Your civilization has now blanketed the Earth in satellite frequencies, so that you don't know at what level of consciousness and frequency you would be if you hadn't produced that electromagnetic pollution. We have no way of knowing. It could be that Jonathan's is not that different in natural frequency, and not that different from where you would be if you had stayed with the harmony of the universe. We suspect his might still be spinning a little bit higher than yours. But we don't know where yours should have gone without the interference from the control freaks out there, and the rampant addiction to these human-dominated frequencies.
As you can imagine, there are scientists who are already working in this way. This is along the idea of quantum computers. Some of the cloning that is done is an attempt to work this way, by spinning off artificial parallel selves of a person. In other words, what we're offering to do here naturally is being attempted artificially by others. Already you have the concept of virtual reality in virtual towns on the internet. That concept, that you can go out there with your persona and learn things, and then the physical you gets to benefit from that—you can almost guess that somebody would be saying, well, let's really do this.
What we want to do, and we could not do this if we didn't know that you love us and trust us, because you can sense that we are loving beings, and the universe is loving. We want to lay this out for people who don't have the technical knowledge, and the scientific language, and the top secret information of what the government's doing. We want to spill the beans, and put this out there for everyone. Anybody can ask for it. You all can be working this way.
If people have the gift for it, the question is, can you handle it psychologically? And the problem a lot of times is people's belief systems, and their narcissism of wanting to be the only Peter in the world. (laughs) Can you get along with your parallels? (laughs) What you're discovering is that it's really not that different than getting along with your friends. For instance, John has experienced a little embarrassment that Johnny was the president, and he wasn't. It's quite interesting how it goes.
What we're talking about is leaping the culture. We want to leap the popular understanding of all this up to the level of where you're really at technologically. And fast. We've got to do this fast, before those who have the technology without the spiritual understanding. . . . By spiritual understanding, we just mean a common decency and love for all people. An understanding that this is for the common good—this is not to control people. Or to win the technology profit war, if you're trying to find what parallel has the best smartphone technology, and bring it through. There's a lot of that kind of thing going on.
Cathee read a book years ago that described how many of your inventions have been reverse engineered from what the military has recovered from extraterrestrial spaceships that have crashed. That's paltry compared to what can be learned through parallel diving. Maybe we need some new terms here.
Peter: Parallel scavenging?
Leapers: It takes advanced travellers to go to the outer reaches and find their contacts and split off, and then come back. And again, you're using a lot of the same kind of technology if you're doing it artificially in cloning someone. We told you that in cloning, like when Johnny was cloned, the idea is to create a parallel self. But that self does not have a soul connection even though it looks like a real person.
There's been some talk in new age circles of robotons, and people who don't seem to have souls. Well, that's some of what you're seeing. Not all of what you're seeing, but some of it is cloned people who are being controlled by someone. That's pretty common nowadays, actually. So it sounds sci fi, but it's not. It's the opposite.
Cathee, in writing to her aunt recently, realized that they're living in different worlds already. And she thought, why am I even trying to communicate? We say, rather than back off from that, push forward and start teaching what you know. Or at least get it published. It needs to become popular knowledge. It really does.
Now, we've kind of answered your questions, and we've kind of skirted your questions. (laughs)
If Cathee does not beg us so much to not leave a version of her here on this parallel, we have promised you and we sincerely mean it, that if we create two Peters and two Cathees in this, that with the Cathee and the Peter who are left on the old parallel, and with the Peter that's left on the old parallel. . . . If things get dicey on the old parallel, it would not be hard for you to just shift up and merge into the version of you in the other world, and essentially leap into your parallel self.
Cathee, if you did have to choose which parallel self you would want to be, we think you'd have a hard time choosing now. Whether to be on this parallel where you could get a book out—and that wish to be on Oprah's show is still there (laughs). Or to be on Jonathan's beautiful parallel, where you're afraid you'll miss your mother. We think you want to be both parallel selves. And that's why it's so cool, because you can be both. (laughs) You can be both.
Because in the middle of any polarity is the oneness. You've seen, Cathee, how sometimes John and Johnny seem to have quite different personalities, and at other times you'll say, "Who's talking? Is John talking? Is Johnny talking?" And they'll say, "Treat us as one right now, like just one of us is talking," on whatever the topic is. Usually when they're really trying to get through to you, and get you to stop putting yourself down or something, they'll gang up on you and say, "Just treat us as one, and listen." (laughs)
We feel that that's advanced. It's like a stalk with two blooms on it. If you are one of the blooms, you feel separate from the other bloom. But if you put your consciousness into the stalk, then you realize that you're both blooms. That's the whole idea of weness. Is your main consciousness as we [your soul family]? Or as your individual self? So we're just playing with it in a different way.
Either way, you have a tremendous amount of work ahead.
Now, your friend said you should leave your bodies behind and really die. She showed up after Cathee begged us to not leave a part of her behind. So your friend showed up and said that, to get you to think about this. Do you really want to leap all of you? Or does it sound not so bad to keep going here and keep going there, both? She gave you the opportunity to really look at that.
If you're willing to have two parallels that are conversant with each other, and pretty telepathically aware of what each other is up to, that would probably be our preference, at this point. We are concerned about many dangers on your present parallel. But we feel that this would be a useful teaching and demonstration. And again, know that we would get you out of here, so that you're not suffering, in a moment's notice if we have to. So we see this as useful that there would be both two Peters and two Cathees that are very aware of their counterparts.
We really hadn't counted on dead bodies here. And that's why we wanted to talk to you right away, after you saw your friend. We don't want you to dwell on that, because you don't want to create it. If things get so bad here that we would want your parallel selves here to leap over and merge in with the ones there, that means things are pretty bad here, and she would probably end up with dead bodies anyway. (laughs) People would be too busy to notice whether you have dead bodies here or not—they'd be in survival themselves! There are infinite scenarios that could play out. We don't say it has to be that bad, even. There's an infinite number of ways to do this. Every day is so rich and full of possibilities.
But what we do like, is what we saw. First of all, obviously, your friend is a part of this, and we want her to be a part of it. We want her to come to more conscious knowledge, though, of our teachings. But when she said she would handle the promotion and the practicalities of getting a publisher, Cathee just beamed. That's when Cathee decided maybe she'd like to stay here and write, because she could do what she's supposed to do—get the books together. Not worry about what seems like this big, thick wall to her, of how the heck do you get a new idea out to the world. Cathee was feeling that if she leaps to Jonathan's world, it would still be the same issue of how do you reach people with these ideas. Only it may be a little harder to do from there.
John made a very spirited suggestion yesterday that he wants to write a lot of his story into the Leapers part two book. And we think that's an excellent idea. You would have a chance to condense these ideas into a story line, and also explain to people that this John is just a parallel John. If anybody gets too upset about Cathee saying that a celebrity walked into her . . . it's just a parallel of the celebrity. That happens all the time, that celebrities die. They do all sorts of things after they die. (laughs) And who are people to say they can't? (laughs) Really. So sorry if it makes someone uncomfortable.
Cathee: That was well put. Thank you, Leapers. (laughs) It's someone's own problem if they can't conceive of this.
Leapers: Our even having talked to you right now has changed probabilities. You seem much more accepting of the idea of splitting off a parallel and still having a presence in the old. We're happy about that. You don't seem excited about a dead body left in the house, and we think that's great. We were never excited about that either.
Peter: So if things got dicey, we'd probably leave dead bodies, but it just may be less important then because there are dead bodies everywhere?
Leapers: You are leaping parallels all the time. So like we've told you, you may have less and less contact with your family, and get to the point where there's no contact anyway, dead body or no dead body. Or your family may split off parallel selves and keep up with you, and end up where you're going. Or they may die. It's infinite, the ways this can go. When you think of Johnny splitting off from John, you know some of John's relatives have parallel selves on Johnny's parallel, and some of them don't. And some of them physically died on Johnny's parallel who are still alive on this parallel. And some he's just totally lost track of, really. Or, he may hear other people talk about them, but he hasn't seen them for twenty years. So they're kind of theoretically alive, but there's no verification.
How many people do you even run into from your past? Cathee hasn't been to a family reunion of the extended family for many years. So she hears about her relatives, but she doesn't know for sure they're even on her parallel, really. Sometimes they pop back in. And sometimes they seem quite different when they pop back in than she remembers them being before.
It's an amazing maze. If you look at it from a soul family perspective, when you need something, someone shows up who has it for you. And it may be someone you knew before, or someone new, like Jonathan is now for you.
But you've probably had experiences where you kind of knew somebody. For instance, Cathee vaguely remembered Doug, the scrawny kid in her high school with whom she might have had a class or two, but she really hadn't paid much attention to him. In her adulthood, he showed up as the guy who delivered the newspaper every morning to the office where she worked. He had bulked up in boot camp at some point, and didn't look like the scrawny kid at all any more. They didn't recognize each other until the conversation one day turned to the subject of where each had grown up, and they discovered not only had they come from the same small town, but they'd graduated in the same class. And he at that point became very significant in her life. They struck up quite a friendship. He helped her through some hard times as an emotional support for her. And then he disappeared again. He moved to Florida all of a sudden, where his girlfriend lived.
So was the Doug she knew in high school really the same Doug who came into her office, and then disappeared again in the space of a year? You could say yes and no. But there was a purpose for Spirit to reach her through that person.
Your friend who is now volunteering to help with your work has been an acquaintance for years. But since the day she called you up and said she felt led to channel with you, but didn't know what about, you've gone to a whole different level with her. You can hardly believe she's the same woman you've known for years.
Spirit moves when Spirit moves. Spirit often uses whoever's the easiest to use to meet a need. And this whole idea of a continuity of selfhood is such an illusion that you cling to anyway. We understand that movies at this point in your reality have just one ending, so that's what you tend to think reality is like. But actually, that same movie could have a different ending on a different parallel.
So the dead body question has so many factors to take into consideration. One parallel version of your mother may do your funeral, and another parallel version of your mother may just move out of contact with you. Or she may die. Or she may leap with you. How the universe decides to play that, you can't really predict ahead of time. It's so in the moment, what needs to happen, what needs to happen, what needs to happen? We won't even try to predict that one.
Because, seriously, we tell you the ship's going down, get off. Cathee has suspected that we're not one hundred per cent sincere in that. That we deep in our hearts would love to see things turn around. And are obviously even in writing the book, hoping. . . . As we've already said, we'd love it if everybody just says "I'm not gonna play this game any more." And if everybody leaps, there's no bad parallel to leap off of any more. That's what we'd really like, is a swing of mass consciousness.
But we still feel that people have to realize the severity of the problems on your parallel—especially the problems in consciousness—and have to wake up. Just by saying, "I am willing to leap. I'm willing to let go of the old parallel and leap to a new parallel." If enough people decide that, that in itself changes the old parallel, because people then would come to a deeper consciousness of who they are.
Now, having said all that, we are not just concerned about your old parallel, and bringing ideas from Jonathan's to yours. We really are concerned about what you can contribute to Jonathan's, even beyond just giving him data to help prevent your parallel from sucking his down. Which is very real too. That's a very real concern.
Cathee: What are you wanting us to give Jonathan's parallel?
Well, we hate to present outcomes that are too predetermined, when the whole idea is to live it and see what you're bringing to them. But here's what we would say in a rough sketch. There are people who are living in loving parallels, where they can solve most of the problems that come up, really. If someone gets sick, usually they can get 'em well. There's still death, but a lot of times dying is conscious. Someone just feels done, even if a disease is involved. Someone may say, "I'm not sure I want all the rehab, thank you. Let's just explore this."
So for you to come over from what looks to most people in the universe like a very dysfunctional parallel, and for you to have come through it in the shape you're in, still having some hope. Still having a pretty good sense of humor about it. And kind of a lightness about it, that even on the worst parallels, love can still prevail. That's powerful.
People on some of the nicer parallels tend to get almost phobic if things go too poorly. They can be a little anal about making sure everything goes well, because they think they can make it go well if they just understand it enough, pray about it enough, and love it enough. And this is good in many ways. But for you to say, "You know, guys, I've been through a much more chaotic parallel." (Yours is by no means the worst, the most chaotic. And your own lives have not been like starving in Africa or something.) But to say, "Even here there's something that makes life worth living. There's something that is eternal in all of us that nothing can take away, nothing can destroy." That is a huge statement.
On Jonathan's they have a great respect for nature. Of course, the weather changes and can get less desirable at times. It's not like they're totally out of touch with discomfort. But to say that even when people go crazy and go into numbness and war with each other, there's still something in the human spirit that makes it through even that pathology—that's huge. That's really big. We know it's not the funnest gift to bring, but it's huge.
Cathee thinks, why would anybody on Jonathan's parallel want to know about us? But we think people are going to want to know a lot. They're going to be interested, because we're all one. We really are all one, at root, even if we're on different parallels.
That's probably enough to sink in for awhile. But keep in touch with us as often as you want to. And stop thinking about that dead body of yours, Cathee. We're not saying you'll never have one. (laughs) But please don't bring it about. Do keep your will up to date—we think you'll feel better.
Cathee, a few days ago you were so excited about leaping. We think your heart is probably more on Jonathan's than it is here. So consider being the parallel self who leaps. In the meantime, of course, you know what to do. Write the book. Or two or three or four or five. So go for it.
Cathee: Thank you.
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