Cathee: I was joking around with a friend on the phone, talking to whomever may be wiretapping my phone from the government. And I heard in my head very distinctly, "We've got you covered telepathically. You don't need to worry about phone bugs."
I hung up and still feel somebody there. Is this a joke, or who are you?
Stan: I've been assigned to you. I'm watching you. It's a rather boring assignment most of time. You're not my only one by any means. I've got about twenty-five people assigned to me.
Cathee: And why? Why me?
Stan: I think it's obvious, Cathee. Johnny.
Cathee: Are you from my parallel or Johnny's parallel?
Stan: Your parallel. I mean, John is enough reason to keep track of you. Johnny was a plum.
Cathee: A plum. What do you mean?
Stan: He's decided to stay with you here, where we have more access and can keep tabs on him better than if he had ended up on Jonathan's already.
Cathee: And what do you want from us? What are you hoping to do with Johnny? Why are you interested?
Stan: I don't think we've figured that out yet. I'm like Al—I don't know why they want the information. Or who wants it, exactly. I just know this is my assignment. And you're easy to read, Cathee. You're really easy.
Cathee: Because why?
Stan: Look, you can talk to me. (laughs) I mean, is this going to make my work easy if you're putting up a whole website, and thinking about him all the time? And he's right there. He's big in you. He's bigger and more visible in you than you realize. Usually I think you don't realize how visible Johnny is in you.
Johnny: I recognize this voice, Cathee. We've had some conversations. In some ways, it's like having a Secret Service man around, which I'm used to. I really never knew who they were, either—whether they were for me or against me. But I couldn't really tell the government no, I'm not going to have them.
Cathee: Are you recognizing this one from your former life?
Johnny: Are you from my former life?
Stan: I'm not going to tell you that. But there's certainly an affinity here. I mean, if I was, that would make it awfully easy to read you, wouldn't it?
Johnny: Yes, it would. And you probably are used to playing in my mind.
Stan: You've picked kind of a perfect place to live, where there aren't a lot of cell phone towers. That's made it a lot harder than when you were in the White House, to keep an eye on your thoughts.
Cathee: Are you connected with that plane that goes overhead, back and forth, back and forth, here?
Stan: No. No, that's something else.
Cathee: (laughs) Why am I asking you? Why am I expecting you to tell me anything?
Stan: Cathee, you know there are a lot of movies—although I know you don't watch movies—that make it sound like the old Cold War spying was up-front violent. But most of intelligence work happens between people who are trying to gain each other's confidence, and are really quite nice to each other.
So, it's pleasant work. And there isn't a lot of daggering or sniping when you're doing the new kind of intelligence work.
In your case, you are so transparent that we haven't had to send anybody out in the field to get to know you.
Cathee: You said you're from—now I forget—my parallel or his parallel?
Stan: Both. (laughs) Like I was saying, we don't have to send somebody to spy on you in person. And we certainly don't want to hurt you, and we certainly don't want to hurt him.
Cathee: So what's your purpose?
Stan: I told you, I don't know. It's just what we do. I don't know how this information is being used. But you asked me if I could give you some advice, and of course you don't know if that's going to be legitimate, helpful or subterfuge. But I would say the more you put out there to the world and are totally transparent about who you are, who he is, all your conversations, and motivations, you're better off. There's a certain category of people—there's even a name for them—where the government doesn't put a lot of investment into covering those people, because everything is out there that they're about. If you were coming up with zero point devices, that might be different. From what I can tell—and again, I don't know anything—I don't think anybody's really concerned about you leaping people out of our grasp. We don't normally go after people after they die. And as far as we can tell so far, it's just like people dying if they leap. You cross them off the list. They're gone.
Obviously, we're following Johnny, and obviously he leapt. He's a pretty special case. The vast majority of people you're thinking of leaping are not going to be people we really care about.
We'd love to get our hands on Jonathan and study him. We're almost more interested in him than in Johnny. Because Johnny could talk about us, and you're talking about us, and Al could talk. But I don't think you'd say anything people don't already know. And the fear factor—if people become afraid of us because you talk about us—is in our favor, probably.
But, you were just telling me on the phone that you're willing to leap me. "Come on over." So, that's why I showed up.
Cathee: Would you like to be leapt?
Stan: Not on the record.
Cathee: Well, it would probably be very easy to leap you if you are already so tuned into me.
It feels like he "hung up."
OK. I'm feeling like someone's talking to me from the background. It's muted.
Stan: How do you feel about this?
Cathee: Well, I'm hopeful I'll have an ally here. Do you realize the ship's going down?
Stan: Yes, I realize that. It's going down faster than you would think.
When Johnny left, there was no hope left. I know you're trying to sort out the visions you've seen of what happened when Johnny left. And you don't know if those are very solidified, or just kind of the extension thing. But he's with you, Cathee. He leapt to the parallel that you're on. He was cloned, and he got away. There may be many parallels that came off from that point. But on none of them was there a feeling of hope. None of them.
Al, in my opinion, has told you that his motives were better than you'd think, or that he was just caught in the machine when he cloned and impersonated Johnny. He was manic, Cathee, and everybody was at that point. I know Johnny has told you that he was just trying to comfort people as the ship sank. He didn't really tell you the details of what he knows, of how bad it really was. There were voices within the machine who thought it would be a disaster for Al to take over Johnny, because we needed Johnny to have any sanity left in that situation. I can't even describe the load he was carrying in trying to be a representative face for a government that knew it could not solve any problems, really. It was mainly trying to put a band-aid on everything, and keep up a facade of "we're gonna be OK."
I'm happy to tell you this. And I think it's OK for me to tell you this. And, you know, I want him to verify it to you. At that point within. . . .
Cathee: He's fascinated.
Stan: . . . within the staff that had him as their detail, of what you're calling the background government. I like that name. There was a dissension going on. And it was a very high-risk dissension between Al's people and those who thought it was the craziest thing they'd ever heard of to clone Johnny and expect to keep even the facade going. There were quite a few people who . . . well, like Hitler and Mussolini, you know, they probably didn't think things out. They just got intoxicated with the power, and wanted a total dictatorship.
I do believe Al when he says that he didn't. He was just following orders. He was just a puppet. I think what he told you was pretty accurate, of where he was at. But I don't think he realized that there were people who almost took him out before this could get this far. Some of his co-workers, you might call them, who had been trained for decades—some of them did die mysteriously. There was a lot going on. A grabbing for power, you might call it.
You can tell who I side with, are the ones who thought it would be totally nuts to clone Johnny. And the cloning techniques weren't perfected that well anyway. Cloning could make people crazy. Not that we ever expected to see Johnny again, back in his own body. But in some other officials, they could just brush it off as Alzheimers. Oh, they suddenly got Alzheimers. You know, suddenly. If it didn't work well. It was bad.
And so we are kind of like Jonathan, trying to retrace our steps. And although I am very connected with the machine that didn't think Johnny should have been cloned, we certainly were able to rummage around in his brain and energy field too.
Johnny: I recognize you. You were the guy who was always standing at the end of the hall.
Stan: Oh, that was for just a few months.
Johnny: But I was only in the White House a few months. You were the guy, weren't you, at the end of the hall. Kind of watching to make sure nobody unauthorized came down the hall, right?
Stan: Yeah. For a few months. I was watching who did have access to you, actually, both official and non-official. I probably know more about your wife's affairs than you did. (laughs)
Johnny: Oh brother.
Cathee: So what's the gig now? I mean, are you coming from a chaotic. . . . Where is your body based? Are you there? Are you here? Are you kind of in between times? Are you paralleled out, yourself, to a safe place? Like, who are you?
Stan: Well, like I said, I have parallels on both places, and many places. I'm a master at being able to choose.
OK, I don't know if I should tell you this, but. There are those of us—and I think Jonathan is one of them. It's almost like cloning yourself. And of course, he would tell you he's working with the Leapers. And I would say, I must be working with some similar energy, or I couldn't do it. We're all working with nature. Maybe not respectfully. But you know, Cathee, how the Leapers used to be for you the deva of incarnation and de-incarnation, and they told you that in Atlantis they were a neutral force that could be called on by anybody.
So I am able to put out parallel selves quicker than you can imagine of myself, find information, and blend them back in to each other. And I've gotten so skilled at it, that there doesn't have to be a central one that they all come back to. It spreads out.
Cathee: Is that a form of immortality? Is that why it was developed?
Stan: Well, you could call it a form of nature. Think of how in your body, cells replicate. People can too.
Cathee: Who do you work for, if you're such a master. Do you work for yourself?
Stan: Cathee, you've been told that in the last three years you yourself have put out sixty parallel selves. And you are wanting to leap, and at least live with your parallel self Leenee [who is in Jonathan's world], if not merge together again. John and Johnny have come together again. Let me tell you this. Maybe it will give you some peace. No one is going to be tracking all sixty of you. It would not be worth someone's life, to dedicate their life totally to tracking you. Especially when you're just trying to do something good in the world.
I think there's a lot of truth to what the Leapers have been saying, that everyone is drawn to love. Everyone is drawn to something worthwhile happening. And a lot of the power plays have come from people trying to follow the person with the power. Usually someone with a lot of power has a lot of at least pseudo-love around them, and energy that people want to be a part of. Al wanted to be close to Johnny.
So I'm here tracking something that still seems to have some life in it. You could say that I'm part of a machine that is through me trying to track you, and track something that has some life in it. Even some compassion in it. Let me put it this way. When the Leapers talk about certain parallels fading out for lack of interest, for lack of lifeforce. They're just like how you feel when you call a number for help with your computer or something, and you get a machine that refers you to a machine, and there's no human talking to you. Just electronic voices. And that feeling you get that it's all pretty dead. A lot of people are depressed nowadays. Like your nephew in college said when you asked what he was majoring in, "I'm still deciding which cubicle will I work in the rest of my life." That feeling of impersonality. Even sex now is porn. Dating is on the internet. You know. We're dying. We're on our last gasp. You don't live in a city, and you go to the Park all the time. I don't think you really remember quite what it was like when you worked at Iowa Mortgage, and now Iowa Mortgage is full of cell phones.
I think more people than you realize, Cathee, are seeing that the game is not worth playing any more. The capitalistic, competitive, how-many-cell phones-can-you-have-ringing-at-once-that-you-need-to-answer game. I think the Occupy Wall Street movement is just a drop in the pond of a backlash that's starting, of people wanting to find meaning. I don't think the old religions are going to hold up, and give people that.
Like I said, I'm not sure exactly who I'm connected with, but I think we're scouting now for where the new juice is going to be. Who's going to lead us out of this? Who's still somewhat alive—I mean, spiritually alive.
Johnny always had that sense. And I didn't know until I was on his beat whether that was real, or was just his highly paid p.r. people creating him to look like someone who was still intelligent, and still spiritually alive. Our faction figured out that he was actually a human being still, and cared about people. I think he really cared about people. He always came across as so caring, like he cared about his citizenry and the world. Kind of like John on your parallel—after his death, that's what people remembered, that he seemed to give a darn about people genuinely. Genuine warmth. Genuine caring. So that's why we thought it'd be crazy if we ended up with Al instead of Johnny in that body. That would be tragic.
So yes, I was legitimately there, a Secret Service man on salary. So obviously the dissension went quite high in whomever my superiors were fighting with.
We're watching you. Of course, we're watching you. That doesn't mean we're against you. It really doesn't.
I think there's some illusion that there's an illuminati that has a centrality to it. There are a lot of different factions, Cathee, even in what you call the secret government. You're reading a book now where the author points out that a lot of the same people—like Clinton—are in all sorts of secret societies. Well, yeah, but they're not running things. They are the front. They may think they're running things.
I don't know if it would be more scary for people to realize that really, nobody's running things in terms of a solidified. . . . Maybe on every parallel somebody different is running things. (laughs) And you get this mishmash when you look at all the parallels together.
If you want to know, I think you're on a good one right now. And Cathee, you're complaining that it takes so long to type things up and put them up the internet. Well, aren't you glad I'm watching—you can just telepath me. I just read your mind. You don't have to type it up (laughs) and my whole network is informed of what's going on with Cathee and Johnny and John. It's kind of funny, like an overlay of the old way of doing things, and the new way of doing things. And we're both kind of caught in between, I think.
I'm saying hi to you, because you said hi to me. I know you're thinking about these things, and the Leapers have said, just put it all up on the web. And Johnny has said, let's be careful. My advice, Johnny, is to put it all up. And it doesn't even have to all go up at once. I'd say just put it up as you channel it. Fill in the pieces. You've got a mailing list. Tell people when you put new information up. I'd be real up front about it. I know Cathee, you're thinking, "I don't know if our mailing list can handle the Johnny stuff." Well, put it up. You'll soon have a different mailing list if people leave, and others come.
But I think you're cutting edge, and I would know. Cathee, you've gotta let go of the old Cathee and realize you are now the walk-in of Johnny and John. You're in a whole different world, girl. Deal with it. Catch up with yourself. And this world is a telepathic world. It's not the world you were on.
You keep implying that you want more telepathic connections, like you have with Jonathan and Malaemata. You are moving into a telepathic world. That's what they have. Here I am to tell you that you're right. And it's not all on their parallel.
Look, I'm well versed in everything Jonathan's been telling you about bilocation and parallel worlds. There are a lot of us for whom that's just the way it is. And we're very skilled, like I said, at cloning ourselves, and keeping track.
Leapers: Cathee, this is not an ordinary man you're talking to, on any parallel. He's very skilled. You can feel good that you attracted the best (laughs) in terms of skill, both with Jonathan and with Stan. And they both want you to be very close to them.
Cathee: Stan, would you track us if we leap to Jonathan's parallel? Would you be right with me?
Stan: That's a very good question. I doubt it. I doubt if I could go there.
Cathee: Leapers, please say more.
Leapers: Well, we're asking Stan, what's your intention?
Stan: Save me from myself. I have the power, and I have the ability, but I don't have the love. It's getting a little boring. I'm looking for something.
Johnny: I think you've lost your core, Stan. I think you've replicated out too much. You seem kind of like me when I was cloned. A little bit too pale. I'm thinking of print on a page that's not very clear. It's pale, who you are now.
Stan: Help me. Help me, Leapers. Help me. Have you been part of creating me too?
Johnny: What are you willing to give up, Stan? Are you willing to let go of me?
Stan: You mean not track you?
Johnny: No, I mean let go of me. Let go of those cords. I think you have to let go before you can see what's left of you. Can see what's really there.
Leapers: Stan, you can be leapt to a viability of selfhood. Johnny would have to take you under wing, and that is his choice. And he's a busy man. You were so connected to so much, though, that it would be an excellent opportunity for Johnny to work back in to your machine.
Stan: What would that require of me?
Leapers: We think you'd have to go back to the age of six, maybe eight, when they first took you from your mother and started training you. I mean, they started at the age of six in your sleeptime. They didn't take you 'til you were eight.
Stan: That's true. That's right.
Leapers: We could go back there and see who you were. See what you loved, what you were interested in, what mattered to you then. Which, of course, contained a lot from past lives. As far as we can tell, that's the last time we see you as being very whole. As having a strong say in who you wanted to be. A viable selfhood. They cracked you. They cracked you after that.
Stan: So what would that look like, to go back there? I mean, would you make me six years old again?
Leapers: It would be an organic process. We can't tell you exactly what it would look like. But what we would do is take the six-year-old—one of the parallels of him—and magnify the qualities that you most loved about yourself, and would now see as what you would just love to be back in and feel as you. And carry that forward to now. Magnify those qualities. That feeling of spirit, of a soul. Of a selfhood.
Stan: Do it.
Leapers: First of all, Johnny. Are you willing to hold space for him?
Johnny: Why is it up to me, Leapers? Why am I involved?
Leapers: Stan has been attached to you for a long time, thinking you were the one who would provide him some soul sense, more than what he could muster in himself. And so you need to be a mirror for him if he's going to do this. Almost a mirror of, no, it's not me, it's up to you. But nonetheless.
Johnny: Yes, I'll do that. I'm just glad I have enough self left myself to do that for someone else.
Jonathan: Come on home, now, Stan. You can't stay where you are. Come over here. We will love you like a little boy. We are happy to take you in. Yes, we are a lot alike in some ways. You are a huge mirror for me.
Come on over now. I know, you're going to leave Johnny. Come on over now. It's OK.
Cathee: You can trust him, Stan. You can trust him.
Stan: Oh my gosh. I had no idea today would be the day. Oh my gosh. OK.
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