Leapers: Everybody is essentially on their own parallel. But there are some major overlaps in historical timelines that people tend to agree on somewhat when they share a parallel. Although, if you talk enough with just about anybody, you may find they remember public figures and events differently.
Peter: Is that a problem when we jump and bring our experiences and memories with us?
Leapers: We have probably aptly prepared you, Peter, for the experience of talking to people who don't share your experiences. So we think for you it'll be exciting, actually, when that starts to happen.
Normally, if you jump to quite a different parallel, you pull up different information from your brain's memory, and even beyond your brain, that then seems like consensus reality to you. We've used the example before of how your internet service provider will dish you up the news that you seem interested in. If you're interested in sports, they'll give you a lot of sports news. If you're interested in soaps, they'll give you a lot of soap opera news. So what happens when you jump to another main avenue—not just the little ins and outs of differences on parallels that you do all the time, but a big jump? You've got a certain amount of information stored in your own particular version of mass consciousness that you have access to, in your brain. In your case, you're a North American, so it's going to be easy for you to bring up mass consciousness as it pertains to those who live in North America and share that cultural heritage and its politics. You would have trouble bringing up what's going on in Uganda anyway.
So you share that databank with people who have had similar experiences to yours. Then when you jump parallels, it's like switching your preferences on your news provider. And they're not going to serve you up the soap opera stuff any more, or the sports news. You're more interested in weather now because the whole parallel is more interested in weather. The whole parallel is accessing the shared knowledge and experience that is what you have in your brain, but from a different slant.
Your neighbors once told you they were creating holographic DVDs that could hold a tremendous amount of information. In reading one, when you go in at different angles with the laser, you access different information, but it's all on the same disc. It's like that with parallel realities. You look with a different resonance and a different, well, purpose. You're on the other parallel for a reason. And so you go in with a different perspective on things. Someone from Thailand is always going to look at North American culture from a different slant than someone who grew up there, and see it through a different lens no matter how long they live there. So when you leap quite a ways, and you're in a very different slant—a different outlook—then you're going to pull up different data. It's not like the universe does a lobotomy, and half of what's in your memory bank falls out. It's that the old memories are not very accessible. You're not that interested in the old.
Peter: But these new memories that they do pull out—they're in there?
Leapers: Are they in your brain, or just in some computer in the sky? It's not always the same. And of course, when we say, "when you leap far," how far is far? We gave the example before of how on Johnny's parallel Ethel Kennedy died in an accident. On his parallel someone may know that she died in the accident, but they may be reading in the newspaper that she received an award. But that news doesn't register in their brain, even if they're physically holding the newspaper, because they're not in that slant and so that's not in their reality. It doesn't even make it into their brain that they saw that article. They don't remember seeing it. It didn't really exist.
It's like when you walk through the woods on Longs Peak, and there are other civilizations that have lived there, but you don't perceive them. They're there sharing the same space, and some the same time, but you don't see them.
This may be part of why so many people are saying they're having memory problems. They can't bring up old names and databanks, because the parallels are shifting back and forth and all around so much that there's not a clear track anybody's on. It's like having a phonograph record that skips. (We realize that a younger generation wouldn't relate to that analogy—they don't have "phonograph record" in their databanks.)
We're not talking about the everyday little jumps, but a big one to where all of a sudden somebody else had been president when you were growing up than who was president for many people on your new track. Sometimes that seems almost retroactive. For instance, say Johnny is now running for president, and everyone tries to remember some of his history. If the press says that he did something when he was a child, you might vaguely think, "Oh yeah, I kinda remember that happening when he was a child." But really, maybe you don't. You may be pulling it out of the mass consciousness, not your own brain. "He went to Greece, didn't he? I thought he did something like that."
See, it's all so slippery. But for a big jump, there's usually a big event that demands your focus and attention. Many people will do a big jump during an accident, or with a change in job that takes you across the country or to another part of the world, or while having a baby that totally changes your life. You're already in a place of change and transformation, so a little memory problem you don't notice as much. You're not really focused on consistency of experience.
Peter: Are memory problems just events fading away?
Leapers: Peter, you're going through huge leaps, but you know you're going through huge leaps. It's not like someone who just started in a new job in Vermont, and can't remember the name of the guy he used to know in Boulder. He wouldn't expect to be clear on that, because he's in a new environment, meeting new people. He's distracted.
It would be interesting for you to remember a day in the life of yourself in some of your early childhood experiences that were on a different parallel than the one you're on now. That child may seem like a truly different person from you.
For instance, Cathee looks back and thinks she must have had some great experiences with her ex-husband, or she wouldn't have married him. But she's on the probability where he was abusive, so that's changed her perception of what he was like before that time. Whereas, if she were on the parallel where she's happily married to him, there would be a whole different chain of memories there. She can't quite pull up how she used to feel towards him. She can vaguely feel that, but there's a puzzlement, kind of a disconnect. It's almost like somebody else's experience that she's read about. It's hard to really go there in her own emotional history to feeling in love with him. It seems theoretical somehow. She does know events happened, like that she visited him in another city every other weekend before they married.
Cathee is feeling a bit unhealthy today. There are many physical reasons. But also, we think she's been going back and forth between trying to imagine how Kari feels about Alan coming to town soon, and feeling very keenly how Johnny feels about Alan coming, and what Johnny feels about Kari, which is different than how Cathee used to feel about Kari. And it seems dizzying how different Cathee's perspective on Kari is than it was even a couple months ago—it has a totally different feel about it.
We think Cathee's trying to keep one foot back on the parallel she was in before Johnny came in. And keep one foot in the parallel she and Johnny are in now, where everything seems different. She feels split, like she's going back and forth in her feeling. She feels like it's not fair to Kari to have changed so much. But when it comes down to it, her relationship with Kari pre-Alan now looks different, based on new information. It seems like now Kari was the one who was supposed to bring Alan into Cathee's life so that Al could talk to her, and we could figure out how to work with his parallel. Whereas before she thought Kari and her husband were just interested in some nice nature channelings.
So we want to give you new information and help you catch up with the new parallel that you're really on. But we totally have compassion for you that the changes are big and discontinuous. We've always talked about how we can leap you discontinuous with what you were living. But it's jolting. And here's one example of a jolt. Cathee misses Kari the old way Kari was, in her perception of Kari. But that's not now who Kari is. What happened? All the while we hear you say, "Jump me into wealth, and I'm going to be able to handle that discontinuity just fine." (laughs) So we'll see. We will see.
Meanwhile, Johnny has come through a heck of a discontinuity, and is reeling from it. It's been almost two months, but he's still reeling from it. Cathee is too. Peter is too. So bless his heart. It was a totally sudden shift for him. But we think it somehow feels right to all of you. It almost seemed like it was coming.
Peter: Perception is a fluid, dynamic, relative thing. And the relative we're redefining now. Even in this lifetime, two people looking at the same incident may have a different perception of it. But in the bigger picture of versions—tracks of life that have a different make-up—people see differently out of the larger picture that they're connected to. When you jump over to another one, you have a whole different way of viewing your life.
Leapers: Yes. Like for instance, Cathee was very affected when she read about Japanese workers at a nuclear plant who were being irradiated after a leak. Johnny told her that on his parallel many nuclear reactors went bad, so his culture had a different take on nuclear power and what it means. He also said part of how they got to such a different view than your parallel's was because certain movies came out and were very popular. They made a huge difference in how people perceived things.
And we agree. Even now, we see the probabilities flexing on whether we need to leap people out, or whether we still can change the old based on what gets popular in the media—something hopeful or something despairing. Something about taking responsibility and making changes, or something saying "we don't care." This is largely why we want to be in the media, which is partly why we created John to be such a media man—he knows how to work it. We've said that all along. But you can see the bigger picture now of how what's in the movies or even what's in channeling journals can affect how whole parallels go.
What Cathee was reading that offended her was how people were starting to call the nuclear plant workers "heroes" for risking the radiation. Calling someone a hero makes it sound like it's a good thing they're doing, instead of saying "This is tragic. We should never let this happen again and require anybody to work anywhere near radiation." To her they're not heroes—they're victims of your electrical appetite. How you slant it matters a lot as to whether you build new nuclear plants, to make new heroes. Are you going to build new plants to make new victims, is the question. Which way do you see it?
As we leap you big and discontinuous, you will be leaping to a parallel that has a real resonance with you. But it will also be almost inevitably like going to a foreign country, where the cultural assumptions that people have in common with each other about what life's about, and what the good life is, are going to be very different than what you grew up with. And even though you don't feel totally aligned with your own culture, it will still take some adjustment to a new set of assumptions. It could be a lot of fun, really, to move into a saner set of assumptions than you grew up with. But nonetheless, it will take an adjustment. It probably will make you feel like there's nothing easy that you can just take for granted.
Even though Johnny's first twenty-nine years were on a parallel similar to Cathee's, after his split-off things changed enough on his parallel that he's feeling culture shock on hers. Cathee was remembering today how when he first came in, he was amazed at the clear blue skies. There have been a lot of little things all along where Cathee has said, "This is how we do things here, Johnny. This is how we think."
When we say that Peter has a split-off on Johnny's parallel, again, it's not that parallels are sharply defined. But it's a way of saying that some of the cultural assumptions Johnny has come from are what Peter's parallel self has been living amongst. Let's give Peter's parallel self another name. How about just Pete.
Pete is far more cynical than Peter is, believe it or not. Cynical with humor, but very sharp. Peter, you're known in your parallel as the guy in the back of the room at a lecture who raises his hand and asks pointed questions. But Pete has made his commentary a fine art form. He stands out more because most people on that parallel, like Johnny has said, are nice with the attitude of "we're all going down together, so let's, you know, enjoy it." But Pete isn't willing to go down without a fight, and is always trying to wake people up. He has a lot of anger.
He's also gone the route of getting more involved in civic affairs. He's on the county commissioner board, is pretty well known, and has quite a fan club because of his outspokenness.
Cathee: Can you tell us when this split-off happened?
Leapers: Well, actually, around the time Johnny went over, about 1988.
Peter: Shortly before my daughter was born.
Cathee: You were involved with the county water board. So did Pete just keep going with that?
Peter: We were starting to give other counties and states the methods that our county came up with for their land and water use plans.
Cathee: I know the memories of that experience have meant a lot to you. So I think your work was part of the split-off. But on Pete's parallel, I'm not sure you have a daughter.
Peter: That would have made it all possible because I wouldn't have been so tied in. I was starting to take off and travel all over the United States.
Cathee: Your guides told us several years ago that your daughter really softened your heart. And now, the way they're describing the other Pete, he's not very soft.
Leapers: Peter, you still have on that parallel a keen interest in metaphysics. And this information on parallel jumping is something that you would be very receptive to receiving on that parallel. You would get into it. You would resonate with it. And you would probably not resonate with anything less radical than that, because you realize how much the ship is going down, and you're just not willing to go down with it. You're fighting it already.
On that parallel, Pete is extremely discouraged with the corruption in politics and land use regulations. He is known as a crusader and an honest person—maybe one of the few. But it doesn't do him much good. He's greatly in debt, because he's not willing to play the games that people play. But he voted for Johnny, and really admires him. He was hoping that Johnny would do something really different. So there is an awareness of him—of course, from a distance.
So we see that if Pete would get ahold of this information, he would put ninety-five per cent of his faith in it. He also has quite a reputation even in his metaphysics—his love of nature and his coming from a spiritual viewpoint of how to do land use development. People know that he's a spiritual being. If he were to really get into the leap, he would definitely influence others to consider this information.
So Peter, you are working it from both sides in terms of the leap. Where we want Pete to leap is not here. You want to leap out of here. (laughs) It's not like it's best for him to leap over into you right now, or even merge in without walking in. But at some point, it's very possible that you'll end up in the same place. You'll leap, he'll leap, and you'll end up coming back together, even though there are some big differences in where your personality development has gone and so forth. Pete's in a semi-permanent relationship, but we're not sure she would be ready to leap, and there may be a lot of soul searching there.
We see that Pete needs to leap, but not necessarily here. Whereas Kari's parallel self is so damaged that she needs to come over and let Kari do some rehab. And Kari needs the healing of helping her parallel self. She feels like something's missing in herself on some level. So they need each other more that way, directly.
Peter: Is there anything that we can do to help Pete, or is he going to do it by himself, or what?
Well, of course we need to write the book, and then get it to him, which is no small feat. But you have been in close contact with him all along on the inner planes. And the more you leap, the easier it will be for him to leap. We don't even know how to explain that, but it's just having somebody blaze the trail, and maybe be there to welcome you eventually when you get there. We think it'll be a joyful time when you do come back together, if it works out that it does make the most sense for you to come back together and not end up on different parallels.
Sometimes you cannot merge back into the same person, but have quite an overlap of interests and psychic strength. Like with John and Johnny—there are still some differences, but they have a lot in common that strengthens a common identity. They're not a good example, because they're in the same body and you wouldn't be. Anyway, you might eventually find yourself having conversations with Pete, which would be good. And that could happen really any time, even if it's just in daydreaming.
Note from Cathee: I was surprised to learn that a version of me is still happily married to the man who in my version was possessed, and served me poisoned soup. Besides plenty of post-traumatic stress, I gained much strength from the episode, which led to my space clearing work with Peter—freeing others from entities. It was also tremendous training for hosting and helping to heal Johnny, and doing my best to protect him here. Without learning to confront those intending unhealthy possession, I likely would not have trusted the extreme intimacy of this healthy soul braid.
Pete broke off from Peter when he was part of a community that he now recognizes as a cult. He had managed the building and operations of a retreat center for the community in remote New Mexico. As in any cult, Peter was under tremendous psychological manipulation, and the split-off probably happened when he was denied permission to pursue his political interests in resource management (he's is a trained geologist). By splitting off and slipping out of the cult one night, Pete took enough pressure off Peter to prevent him from having a nervous breakdown. But he had no closure, and began his new direction very alone. Peter went on to confront the cult leader a few years later before leaving, which was self-empowering. I think of that group energetically as being like an octopus with dozens of tentacles. We've both had to deal with negative cording still coming from other former cult members, not unlike that coming from Alan. Peter has had good practice for supporting me in supporting Johnny, and helping to leap people out from being dominated.
What I find fascinating is that time flows both ways, according to purpose. It's possible that I split off in the poisoning incident seventeen years before Johnny's cloning, to learn the skills I would need to help him now. But had he not been cloned, the version that I am might not have split off. I certainly wish the happily married Cathee well, and am looking forward to the day Pete and Peter will sit around together, laughing and comparing notes.
Johnny: I want to know, how the heck did I get in the hot spot when the ship went down? I feel awful about it.
Leapers: We feel that there are more versions of you that will be coming over. And they may not be so dramatic—they may just quietly merge into you. But we do think there is a Johnny who became president, but didn't go through the cloning and lived a little longer. And that's what you're judging yourself by, somewhere in your psyche knowing that you didn't have to get cloned and be out of the picture, and therefore lose your power. Because some part of you didn't live that.
But can you see, Johnny, how incredible it is that you were willing to go through that, and how powerful a leader spiritually you are, because you did. And here you are with Cathee, Peter and John now, working back around and in from the side. So it's beautiful that you're willing to play a very hard role. It's almost an answer to your own prayer—you knew the ship was going down, and now you are helping to very influentially develop the idea of the leap, and insert it back there. So you're answering your own prayer, literally. It's just that we regret that you went through so much pain, and we want you to be healed of it.
from Parallel World Slants and Peter's Parallel Life to:
Part Two of Parallel Worlds Leap Manual
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